And now for something completely silly

[ETA: Hey, folks. So I did a jerk thing – for good reasons, but it was still a jerk thing. I’ve been having a lot of anxiety about a mutual troll that Filamena Young and I both share, so I blocked out her name on the Google+ post that she made that started this whole mess. Which was bad! I shouldn’t have done that! So I’ve fixed that, and linked to the post. But also you should maybe go buy some of her games, because she’s good people and also an amazing game designer. 

So this post requires a little background.

First, earlier in the week people started sharing this (NSFW!!) image: “if males had the same armor as females in RPGs”.

And predictably, people started reporting the photo as obscene. Because a dong-esque, metallic Pringles can codpiece is obscene, but women in RPG art showing the exact same amount of skin are TOTALLY AWSUM!!1!!11!eleventy

I’ll give you a moment to stew in the hypocrisy.

I aaalmost wish I could use this meme more, because his beard is amazing.

Thankfully, because the people in my circles are some cool people, it didn’t take long for people to make some pretty funny responses. Including this thread! Which led to… well… okay, just read the screen cap, okay?


RETALIATORY WANG. Is that not the name of the best punk band in the history of ever? And I found myself compelled – compelled – to draw the cover art of this hypothetical Retaliatory Wang album. Because reasons! And empowerment! And… uh… reasons!

And the idea rattled around in my head for a day or two, but I dithered a bit. I mean, sure it would be funny! …to me. But would anyone else thing so?

And then another thing happened. A female artist friend on the Plus started a thread in which she brought this art (also NSFW!!) to my attention, because she knows how much I hate corpse tits in game art. And almost immediately some male artist, previously unknown to me, jumped in and started complaining that women like us were what was wrong with game art, and you know he’s definitely a feminist, but complaining about gratuitous nipples on a flaming skeletal corpse is, like, the worst. ART IS DEAD. (Yes he literally used the phrase “art is dead”.)

And suddenly, my desire to draw Retaliatory Wang’s album cover assumed new meaning. Now this wasn’t just about conceptual silliness! This was about retaliation! With wangs! I started sketching, and I started a new thread asking people for song title ideas and… well… then this happened:

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Reference used: this photo by Rolling Stone of The Ramones



And then for some reason I felt it necessary to write more than 400 words explaining why this was a thing that needed to happen. So I blame my brain, okay? And the internet, too. But mostly my brain.

[Thanks to the following for supplying track titles, or portions thereof: Arlene Medder, Ezio Melega, Dymphna, J. Walton, Jonas Richter, and Josh Roby. Thanks also to the people who inspired this trainwreck. You know who you are.]

>On the word slut: a rambling response long overdue

>Okay. A quick summary before I dive into what is sure to be a long and rambling post of where this is coming from. Maverynthia and tekanji left some comments taking issue with my use of the word slut in a recent post. I was on vacation at the time, but didn’t want to announce that to the interwebs; instead I wrote some super-quick (less than five minutes) and admittedly defensive comments. Tekanji responded with some comments… that Blogger’s spam filter promptly ate.

I didn’t catch this until much, much later (again, vacation) after she’d already written a post on I restored the comments and made a clarifying post, apologies were made by all and sundry for the misunderstanding, and I promised to write the response that I wanted to write several days ago and was too braindead to do until today.

Okay. That about covers everything for our readers who weren’t following things across three different threads on two different blogs. So, to jump right into it…

The original context: two different usages of the word slut in two different contexts

Okay. So in my post about TERA Online, the word slut was used in the title: “TERA: competing with Bayonetta for the sluttiest women still wearing clothes?”

The second (chronologically) instance was in my post about gamer valentines:

… It seems like they might be using this as a chance to promote Chell’s new design in the upcoming release. Chell in the first game was female, yes, but definitely was not a traditionally slutty female heroine. I’m a bit worried by the decision to glam her up. Here’s hoping that we don’t start seeing disgusting Chell fanart pop up like we did with post-Zero Suit Samus…

I’m actually going to talk about the second instance first, since I think it needs to be addressed before I can come back to the first.

Slut the second: All female heroes are not sluts

Okay. When I started this blog, I started it in a fit of rage about all of this bullshit I’d collected about sexism in gaming while doing research about my original article over on See Page XX. I was all angry and used language that was a lot more extreme than what I use when writing posts now. I know in the past I have referred to women in images as I’ve examined as “cleavagey skanks” and “slut-bags”. And you know what, once I settled into a routine and started getting desensitized (at least to a certain extent) to this shit that I examine on a regular basis, I re-thought my stance somewhat. I backed off on language like “skank” and “slut-bag”, though I continued to use the word “slut”.

Still, here’s where I say mea culpa. The language “traditionally slutty female heroine” is problematic, because it implies that most or all female heroes are sluts. That’s certainly not what I meant to imply. What I was referring to, badly, was the fact that the outfits and designs of most female characters in video games are… well… slutty.

But wait! That’s hypocritical, isn’t it? Please allow me to explain…

Here’s the thing. I wish I had better language to describe these things, language that isn’t loaded. But the fact remains that English is not a perfect language, and sexism is pretty hard-coded. Gender neutral insults like “asshole” are almost always less “extreme” than gendered insults like “douchebag”, “cunt”, or “bitch”. (You could make arguments on either side for most variations on “fuck____”, but that’s a different argument.)

Similarly, saying that these women are “scantily clad” or calling their clothes “skimpy” doesn’t really do justice to how extreme the designs of these characters are. It goes beyond just the cut of their clothing – it extends to anatomy and posing as well. Often video game women have their secondary sex characteristics distorted in ways obviously meant to titillate the intended viewer (straight men). However, would I say that all of the women in the above image are sluts? No.

Here’s the thing. Slut is a loaded word with a lot of baggage, but I feel like it can be an accurate word to use when used to describe the outfits and armor worn by fictional women in gaming, because often that harmful baggage is exactly the stereotypes that the character designers want to convey to their intended male audience! The awful slut stereotype is exactly what the game companies are using to sell their product to male gamers!

Was I sloppy in my use of the word by saying “traditionally slutty female heroines”? Absolutely. But because of the fact that companies use the baggage of the slut stereotype to make money, I feel it’s important to understand that the word slut does have a place in the deconstruction of character design, as long as one is careful to use the word in reference to the design and not the character herself. At the end of the day, fictional gaming women do NOT have a choice about how they present themselves to the world, and I think that’s an important thing to consider. But that lack of choice still doesn’t make them sluts.

I can respect that slut can come with a lot of painful and terribly personal baggage, and absolutely not do I want to condone the real-world verbal abuse of women by men who call them sluts and other similar insults. But the slut stereotype is a very real part of what I’m trying to confront here, and I hope that what I’ve said makes sense as a case for the considered use of the word.

Should I have been more careful? Sure. And for that I apologize.

That said, moving on…

Slut the second: the messy dividing line

Okay. Coming back to the first instance of slut – my comparison of women from TERA Online and Bayonetta. So here’s the thing. Sometimes women aren’t just designed to look slutty, but they’re also designed in such a way as to act… um… slutty.

The women in TERA are noted for their problematic animations. The castanic (demon) women run around bent over at the waist so that you can see up their skirts (if you can actually find one). What’s worse, the idle combat animation looks like it wouldn’t be out of place on the floor of a club and the actual spell casting animations involve hip thrusting gyrations.

That’s not to say that real women who want to dress like castanic women and go dancing should be called sluts! But again, when you consider the animations in combination with the designs, the promo material, and the entire conversation surrounding TERA Online, again the word slut does seem to apply to some extent since the harmful baggage is again intended as promotion. The creators behind TERA Online are very purposefully aiming to make their designs more sexist than any other comparable game while still not crossing the line into “adult” like Kabod Online. (Though the fact that these characters are avatars makes me think that I should have said that the castanic women ACT slutty rather than saying they ARE sluts.)

Compare with Bayonetta… a character created by a noted misogynist as his “ideal woman”, again we have a character who is problematic not just for her design but for the totality of what she represents. Bayonetta’s attacks involve nudity and widespread legs combined with nudity, in Kamiya’s words she uses her sexuality “as a weapon”, and she kills angels for crying out loud. You couldn’t possibly have a stronger example of a character who represents the female sexuality = slutty = eeeeeeeeeeevil stereotype any stronger than Bayonetta.

These are all screenshots, sadly.

Now it’s super rare that you have an example as extreme as Bayonetta, sure. But that extreme exists. Bayonetta is the literal embodiment of almost every negative stereotype about women’s sexuality that exists in Western culture, with a healthy dose of Japanese stereotypes thrown in. I honestly don’t know how to talk about a figure like Bayonetta without saying that she has been explicitly created to perpetuate slut stereotypes.

But, to state the obvious, that doesn’t make all fictional game women Bayonetta – thank god. There exists a spectrum, and a lot of the time the lines aren’t as clear cut as they are with Bayonetta. The vast majority of fictional women aren’t sluts, and it was sloppy of me to use language that implied that I thought they were. But I stand by the title of my post about TERA, because there is a mentality among certain game designers that in order to attract attention you have to be MORE sexist than anyone else out there because vanilla misogyny isn’t cutting it anymore.

tl;dr: what’s the upshot?

The upshot? I was sloppy and shouldn’t have used the phrase “traditionally slutty female heroines”. But it’s my position that the word slut still has a place in discussions about harmful stereotypes in gaming and game design, as long as a distinction is made between the design of a character and what that character actually is.

I’ve done a lot of soul-searching in the last few days and I feel like this is a position I can stand by. It’s a messy position, sure, but sexism and misogyny are messy issues. I’m bound to screw up from time to time, but I don’t want to let that fear of screwing up silence me. That said, I understand it if you don’t agree with me and am happy to continue having a conversation about it. And if you decide that my views on the matter make my blog not worth your time, I’ll understand that too.